both in new york. mark, let me start with you on this, on whether this psychiatrist who, you know, according to reports was told by holmes he wanted to kill a lot of people to the point where she violated the privilege to go contact the cops should have done more. >> megyn, i'm not ready to hang anybody yet until i know what really the facts are. we can play with your introductory facts and say those are the facts, and we can play hypothetical. but i'd want to know from her -- which i have yet to hear or see any e-mails that say he told me he wanted to kill hundreds of people now, immediately, in the future -- megyn: mark, if it's at the point where she calls the campus police and violates patient confidentiality, she clearly thinks it's imminent. >> i agree. but then the question is why didn't they, authorities, deem it to be a significant enough risk to do something? that's apparently what took place. so it depends on the words that were told to her. she might have passed it along because she thought